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love the cup holder. thanks again mr, lee.

great cup holder

I am just now seeing the video King Dumb, that is so cool thanks!

Lee

MR, LEE. THANKS FOR SUCH A GRACIOUS OFFER. I FEEL BAD AFTER WHAT WE  STATED ABOUT THE PRICE AND SO FORTH, AND I TRULY DID NOT MEAN ANYTHING ABOUT POSTING THE SITE THAT HAD THEM FOR $35 , BUT GLAD YOU CAUGHT THAT SO YOU COULD ADDRESS IT. ANYWAY THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO SEND ME THE CUP HOLDER FREE , AS I AM STILL GOING TO ORDER ONE FOR THE WIFE (PINK) AS SHE LOVE'S IT. WELL AFTER ALL THIS I TRULY HOPE YOUR CUP HOLDER SALE'S SKY ROCKETT. ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU AND SORRY FOR ALL THE BS. KD. P.S THATS FUNNY ABOUT THE DOC'S NAMES, SLMAO. PEACE KD.

No sweat, the banter is becoming fun.  Glad to send one, you can review it for the forum.

Lee

NOW IF I WERE TO SEEN THIS AND NEW IT WERE MADE IN THE USA, I WOULD HAVE SAID NOTHING AT ALL MY FRIEND, BUT THANKS FOR THE DISCOUNT TO GET US AT THIS PRICE . KD

 http://www.chucksleather.com/NEW-PRODUCTS-MAGnificient.html

KD thanks for catching that for me, I didn't know that Chuck had the wrong price posted on his website. I'll send him an email.  Now that that's out of the way, if I have in some way slighted you I wish you would just come out with it and state what your issue with me is.  If there is no legitimate issue then I can only assume that your repeated and consistently flawed attempts at demeaning me is the result of an issue you have with yourself and not with me.  In my experience the biker community, regardless of what a person rides, is the most generous, genuine, and caring community you'll ever find; so if there is something you need help with don't be afraid to bring it up.  I'm sure we'll all be glad to help in anyway we can.

Lee

Mr, lee. i to appoligize for getting you upset, i am glad to know your cup holder is made in the good old usa, i personaly did not mean to affend you in any way, please forgive me  as i did post things i should have not stated. now with that being said i truly hope you forgive me. i also have sent your site to many biker friends as well as many buisnesses. good luck with your cup holder and as always safe ridding . KD.

KD, no sweat.  You just happen to touch on one of the few issues I get passionate about....just don't say that Vanilla is better than Chocolate.  Thank you very much for letting others know about the product.  Be safe and watch out for idiots holding steering wheels!   

LMAO. THERE IS CHINA IN SOME IF NOT ALL THE MATIERALS USED IN THE CUP HOLDER. JUST LIKE OUR VICS. ALL AMERICAN MADE, YEA THEY ARE MADE HERE IN THE US, BUT THERE ARE ALOT OF PARTS THAT ARE MADE IN JAPAN, LIKE WHEN I TOOK OFF MY SPEED O BRACKET STAMPED ON THE BOTTOM WAS MADE IN JAPAN. BUT ANY WAY THERE ARE ALOT OF STORES WERE I RIDE AND IF NOT I WILL HAVE A COOLER FULL . STILL LMAO . CHEAP BASTARD CLUB. HE HE HE HE. NOW THATS FUNNY THERE NOW AND I DONT CARE WHO YOU ARE. AS ALWAYS ANOTHER POST SHOT TO HELL BE KD.

If the defense of my statements offends anyone, I apologize.....king dumb you have touched on a topic which I take seriously.  I too share, what I perceive to be, your disappointment with the state of American manufacturing.  That being said, please give me a little credit for saying that I sourced my materials here in the US, however it also happens that the ABS body, the magnet, the adhesive, and the rubber make the majority of the cost of the cup holder and all of those parts are actually manufactured here in the US; the body in North Carolina, the magnet in Texas, the adhesive in Tennessee, and the rubber in California.  I don't know where the faux leather wrapping or the metal for the metal band is manufactured, however the cutting, sewing, and shaping of those parts are done by American hands.  Regarding the US manufactured materials, I grant you that there is a high likelihood that that some if not all of the chemicals or machines involved making those materials come from outside the US.  If that disqualifies those materials from being called American Manufactured then by the same logic none of us are Americans because all of our ancestors came from somewhere else, those that were here never agreed to be considered Americans.

I admit that I did check into sourcing parts from China, and discovered that I could reduce my materials costs (after shipping expense) by almost 80%; however I still chose to stick with my American suppliers.  I did this because I firmly believe that if you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem, and with the current state of the US economy and the fact that it is this countries small business community that will pull us all up, that it is incumbent upon me to do what I can.  I know that in the quantities I'm purchasing I'm not making anyone rich; however maybe my order is the difference between a supplier losing $100 that month or breaking even that month...and maybe that owner made a decision that if he/she lost money that month he/she would lay somebody off...you never know how the little decisions we make can have a big effect on someone else.  I have two guys that I pay to help me build the cup holders, I don't them much but I pay what I can afford....that's 2 less people collecting unemployment.  Is any of this going to save our economy or balance the federal budget?  No of course not, but at least I can say I'm not part of the problem.  One last comment, if we go around knocking products that are manufactured in the US because some aspect of the materials came from elsewhere then we are actually discouraging people from manufacturing in the US because why should someone incur an 800% increase plus the tax consequences of manufacturing and/or sourcing materials in the US if they are just going to be slammed for it.

Stepping off my soapbox now, I'm done

Thanks,

Lee

Quote from: lee-mag-ma on March 07, 2012, 06:33:16 AM

Actually Gary emailed me sometime ago offering any help he could provide, I replied but I have not had the time to reach back out to him.

Lee, Gary is top shelf. He purchased my carburetor business in 2007 and has really run with it. He talked K&N into making an air filter specifically for him with its own proprietary part number and has Dobeck making his proprietary "Bully" fuel controllers (just like Lloydz and the VFC 3). The venders that I was getting my custom-made parts from LOVE him and won't sell to anyone else. If nothing else, his advice is free... and he's a cool guy to talk to.

Best of luck with this venture, Lee. I hope your cup holders are more popular than pockets on pants.

Thanks HC, I've done B2B service businesses before, but not manufacturing and selling a B2C product.  That's one of reasons I really like the forums because it gives that feeling of knowing customers personally like when I was doing B2B.  Truthfully, I never intended to sell the cup holder I made it for myself because I couldn't find anything to meet my needs.  Then friends wanted it, and then last year rode from TX to NYC and stayed in the city for 2 months.  While I was there my sister, who wouldn't know a V-Twin from a Siamese twin thought it was the coolest thing she'd ever seen and convinced me to put it out there.  Frankly she was right, but don't tell her I said that. 

Lee

Tough crowd..... Despite all your R&D and all your quality American made components... you're supposed to sell them for $20 and provide free shipping?

Welcome to the cheap bastards club. Here in the club, the phrase "You get what you pay for" is never spoken. Oh, they'll still shout "Buy American"  from the mountaintop... but they are the very reason people have their products manufactured in China.

I don't have a freakin' cupholder on my bike and I don't intend to, but IF I were buying one, I'd buy yours just because it's made for bikers by a biker in the USA.

See if Gary will advertise them and sell them on his web store.
www.gmanindustries.com

Thanks!  Actually Gary emailed me sometime ago offering any help he could provide, I replied but I have not had the time to reach back out to him. 

Lee

I agree with the others.  I have a handlebar mounted cup holder that works just fine.  I see no reason to spend that much money to replace something that works just fine. 

BTW what keeps someone from taking it off my bike while my bike is parked some place on a ride?

Everyone has different preferences, one of the reasons I created this is was because I couldn't find a decent cup holder for under $50, and even then nothing that could hold a larger cup.  For me I want ice in my drink, which means you have to have a larger cup.  As far as the other question, nothing.  I can only speak from my own experience after using mine for more than a year including a trip from TX to NYC (including staying in NYC for 2 months). 

Lee