lloydz torque tubes.

[Half_Crazy]

BTW I don't live near Lloyd either, I went(rode) to one of the Victory Motorcycle Clubs Rallys(The VMC) and got an appointment with Lloyd and got him to tune mine. ($200.00)

I don't live cloe to Lloydz either. 6 hour drive. Been there 4 times!!!

[11bigfish]

3000 miles away i maybe give or take

[dcarney686]

got the tts last july,installed with pc3 and had dan thayer do the tune.pulled 95 horse and 100 torque.im running hacker true duels.big wakeup in performance and still pulls upper 40s on the road.great upgrade!

[dcarney686]

sorry,i meant 110 torque.big difference.

[diamonbird]

What year bike do you have and motor size?

[dcarney686]

running an 06 kingpin tour with 100 cubes.next wish list item is vm-1 cams.TDUVAV

[diamonbird]

Sounds like your tuner knows how to tune a Vic....... The cams will only change the RPM's at which the Torque peaks and how long it stays there. I'm not saying don't get them but sometimes I wish I hadn't changed my cams out for the 438's, cause I really need my CPU upgraded to allow higher RPM's to get all the 438's has offer. Do the research and find out forsure if the cams will help before wasteing the money.
95hp/110T is a pretty good out come from no more then you've spent. Compression is will do more for your engine then cams will but changing compression will mean a need for cams also!
I personally think that I have to much Hp/Torque for what my drive belt can handle cause I broke my belt not to ago hammering the throttle, luckly I was close to home when it happened, it coasted to in front of my house so the pushing didn't last to long!lol
Here a pic of my dyno done by Lloyd!
If I had the TT from Lloydz I think my numbers would be alittle higher but like I said I don't think my drive belt could handle it!

[Half_Crazy]

sometimes I wish I hadn't changed my cams out for the 438's

There are better cam options than .438s now. Lloydz no longer sells or installs .438 cams.

I really need my CPU upgraded to allow higher RPM's to get all the 438's has offer

Looking at your graph, your power has leveled off/is falling off way before the rev limiter. It is doubtful that you'd gain anything from a rev limit increase. Even with .495 cams in my bike, increasing the rev limiter did nothing.

Compression is will do more for your engine then cams

Increasing compression alone is worth almost nothing. However, increasing compression will allow you to use an agressive cam and keep strong low-end-grunt.

If I had the TT from Lloydz I think my numbers would be alittle higher

The TTI and .438 cams is a poor combination. They do not work well together.




Here is my take on this:
Unless you are going beyond pipes/airbox/FI controller the TTI is not for you. You will be better served by an S&S airbox and S&S download... and save yourself several hundred bucks.
If you are going into the engine for more displacement/high compression/headwork/more agressive cams... THAT is when a TTI intake will become beneficial. Be aware that the farther you go, the more difficult the tuning becomes and you'll want a Power Commander to get that job done... and you'll need a talented tuner to optimize the $$$ you threw at it.

Cams: Unless you're adding compression and a set of cams that can use it, the gains from cams alone (increases per dollar) will be very small.

Rev Limiter:
Unless your engine is still BUILDING power when the rev limiter hits, increasing the rev limit does absolutely nothing.

[diamonbird]

Thanks HC........ I've done all I'm going to do to my bike anyway, the belts made for my bike are weak and can't handle many more power!
I keep an extra belt at all times......I've only broke one but I was getting on it pretty hard when it let loose. My riding is mostly long trips so I
kind'a take it easy now but I've got the power to pass in a hurry if needed.
A couple of us(4) from the CVCVMC (old members) are heading out to Yellowstone in June(2 weeks) you can bet I'll be carrying an extra belt with me!lol
later bro

[king dumb]

BIRD,  YOUR BIKE HAS THE 1 1/2 DRAG BELT CORECT?. I HAVE REPLACED MINE ONCE AND THE NEW BELT IS EVEN BETTER THAN THE FACTORY ONE, IT HAS KEVLAR. ANY WAY I TORTURE THE HELL OUT OF MY BIKE AND THE BELT HOLDS FINE SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF YOU HAVE THE 1 1/2 BELT. . ALL SO HC I UNDER STAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT THE TTI, BUT HAVE A FEW FRIENDS THAT HAVE STOCK PINS 100IN AND INSTALLED THE TTI AND GAINED 14 HP AND 12 FTQ? . ANY WAY HC I AM GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT TO THE STRIP ON COMPANY TIME THAT IS LOL, HAVE A MEETING AROUND THAT TIME NEAR THERE SO THOUGHT I WOULD TRAILOR THE PIN AND HAVE A LITTLE FUN, PEACE . KD. 

[diamonbird]

Yea it's 1 1/2" and the one I broke had Kevlar in it......the ones on the newer bikes has Carbon Fiber which is stronger then kevlar......I work at Dupont (coming up on 37 yrs.)who makes Kevlar and back in the late 70's I worked in Kevlar making the stuff.
I have in my favorites a web site to buy the stronger Carbon Fiber belt that will fit my bike I just don't need a belt cause I have a brand new one in my garage right now.
Like I said I don't ride like I stole it much any more.
Also Lloyd has said that the TT's would allow more air in as my RPM's climbed and the reason my Torque was diminishing was the Ness Air Box and this was while he was tuning my bike....

[Half_Crazy]

My belt is 1-1/8 wide and 147 teeth. (Knock wood) I have never broken a belt... But I ride like a girl.

Larry vs Drag Bike

With a stock engine the S&S box is worth about a dozen HP over a stage 1 airbox upgrade... The TTI will make better torque through the midrange, but will require a fuel controller and a dyno tune. Total cost of the S&S upgrade, including having the download installed, will be under $400. The TTI, PC III, and dyno tune will cost you $1,100 before it's over with. That $700 savings would pay for any pipes you wanted...

The weekend of June 3rd... that Sunday... Maryland International Raceway. Heads up V-Twin drag racing at it's finest.

[king dumb]

Yea it's 1 1/2" and the one I broke had Kevlar in it......the ones on the newer bikes has Carbon Fiber which is stronger then kevlar......I work at Dupont (coming up on 37 yrs.)who makes Kevlar and back in the late 70's I worked in Kevlar making the stuff.
I have in my favorites a web site to buy the stronger Carbon Fiber belt that will fit my bike I just don't need a belt cause I have a brand new one in my garage right now.
Like I said I don't ride like I stole it much any more.
Also Lloyd has said that the TT's would allow more air in as my RPM's climbed and the reason my Torque was diminishing was the Ness Air Box and this was while he was tuning my bike....

bird the new belt i now have on the bike has the Carbon Fiber belt , my bad, its been a long week, the wife and my three year old boy got into a bad car wreck wed morning she ran her car under a school ,bus and took the roof off of the car and her head broke the stering wheel, my three year old has a broke rib , broke nose and knocked out his bottom teeth. but thank the lord he was watching over them cause there is nothing left of my wifes car. but any way ride safe and take care. kd. 

[king dumb]

HC, I LOOKED AT THE 2012 LINE UP FOR MIR. JUNE 3RD SHOWS THIS. MAYBE THEY DON'T HAVE IT UPDATED??

 
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  2012 Season Schedule
 
 
   





Mar 3, Sat, Test & Tune
Mar 4, Sun, Test & Tune

Mar 10, Sat, Test & Tune
Mar 11, Sun, Test & Tune

Mar 17, Sat, Test & Tune
Mar 18, Sun, Test & Tune

Mar 24, Sat, MIR Spring Performance Swap Meet / Test & Tune
Mar 25, Sun, Test & Tune

Mar 31, Sat, Test & Tune
Apr 1, Sun, Test & Tune

Apr 6, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness & X275
Apr 7, Sat, Speed Unlimited ET Series Double Header Kick-off 1/4
Apr 8, Sun, Closed for Easter

Apr 13, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness & Outlaw Drag Radial
Apr 14, Sat, Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/4
Apr 15, Sun, Test & Tune

Apr 20, Fri, Test & Tune
Apr 21, Sat, East Coast Door Wars & Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/4
Apr 22, Sun, East Coast Door Wars & Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/4

Apr 27, Fri, Test & Tune
Apr 28, Sat, MIROCK Spring Nationals
Apr 29, Sun, MIROCK Spring Nationals

May 4, Fri, NMRA Ford Nationals
May 5, Sat, NMRA Ford Nationals
May 6, Sun, NMRA Ford Nationals

May 11, Fri, Mountain Motor Nationals & Top ET 5k 1/4
May 12, Sat, Mountain Motor Nationals & ET Series Top ET 5k 1/4
May 13, Sun, Closed for Mother’s Day

May 18, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness & X275
May 19, Sat, Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/4 & Junior Dragster Open
May 20, Sun, Big Rig Nationals

May 25, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness & Outlaw Drag Radial
May 26, Sat, Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/4
May 27, Sun, Custom T’s Doorslammer Nationals

Jun 1, Fri, Test & Tune
Jun 2, Sat, MIROCK Summer Showdown
Jun 3, Sun, MIROCK Summer Showdown

Jun 8, Fri, NMCA Muscle Car Nationals
Jun 9, Sat, NMCA Muscle Car Nationals & Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/4
Jun 10, Sun, NMCA Muscle Car Nationals

Jun 15, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness & X275
Jun 16, Sat, Top ET 5k Dbl Header & Speed Unlimited ET Series1/8
Jun 17, Sun, Test & Tune

Jun 20, Wed, War On Wheels I

Jun 22, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness & Outlaw Drag Radial
Jun 23, Sat, Speed Unlimited ET Series Team Challenge 1/4
Jun 24, Sun, Test & Tune

Jun 29, Fri, Legends at Budds Creek
Jun 30, Sat, Legends at Budds Creek
Jul 1, Sun, Test & Tune

Jul 6, Fri, IHRA Junior Dragster Team Finals
Jul 7, Sat, IHRA Junior Dragster Team Finals
Jul 8, Sun, IHRA Junior Dragster Team Finals

Jul 13, Fri, IHRA Sportsman Spectacular
Jul 14, Sat, IHRA Sportsman Spectacular
Jul 15, Sun, IHRA Sportsman Spectacular

Jul 20, Fri, Test & Tune
Jul 21, Sat, MIROCK WPGC Bike Fest
Jul 22, Sun, MIROCK WPGC Bike Fest

Jul 27, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness & X275
Jul 28, Sat, Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/8
Jul 29, Sun, IREV – Summer Import Revolution

Aug 1, Wed, War on Wheels II

Aug 3, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness & Outlaw Drag Radial
Aug 4, Sat, Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/8 & Custom T's Afterdark Underground
Aug 5, Sun, Test & Tune

Aug 10, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness & X275
Aug 11, Sat, Mod ET 2k Dbl Header & Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/8
Aug 12, Sun, Test & Tune

Aug 17, Fri, Test & Tune
Aug 18, Sat, 10k-2k Poker Bash & Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/8
Aug 19, Sun, 10k-2k Poker Bash & Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/8

Aug 24, Fri, IHRA Pro Am
Aug 25, Sat, Jet Wars & IHRA Pro Am
Aug 26, Sun, IHRA Pro Am

Aug 31, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness & Pro Street Q8
Sep 1, Sat, Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/8
Sep 2, Sun, Quartermasters Challenge
Sep 3, Mon, Test & Tune

Sep 7, Fri, Test & Tune
Sep 8, Sat, Raider ET Challenge 1/8
Sep 9, Sun, Raider ET Challenge 1/8

Sep 12, Wed, War on Wheels III

Sep 14, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness & Outlaw Drag Radial
Sep 15, Sat, Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/8
Sep 16, Sun, IREV – Fall Import Revolution

Sep 21, Fri, Superchargers Showdown & Top ET 5k 1/4
Sep 22, Sat, Superchargers Showdown & ET Series Top ET 5k 1/4
Sep 23, Sun, Test & Tune

Sep 28, Fri, Test & Tune
Sep 29, Sat, MIROCK Fall Nationals
Sep 30, Sun, MIROCK Fall Nationals

Oct 5, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness & Pro Street Q8
Oct 6, Sat, Speed Unlimited ET Series 1/8
Oct 7, Sun, Test & Tune

Oct 12, Fri, Test & Tune
Oct 13, Sat, Raider ET Challenge 1/8
Oct 14, Sun, Raider ET Challenge 1/8

Oct 19, Fri, Ford Fever Classic
Oct 20, Sat, Ford Fever Classic
Oct 21, Sun, Ford Fever Classic

Oct 26, Fri, Speed Unlimited Midnight Madness Grand Champion Runoff
Oct 27, Sat, Mopar Eastern Classic
Oct 28, Sun, Test & Tune

Nov 2, Fri, World Cup Finals - Import vs Domestic
Nov 3, Sat, World Cup Finals - Import vs Domestic
Nov 4, Sun, World Cup Finals - Import vs Domestic

Nov 11, Sun, MIR Fall Performance Swap Meet / Test & Tune

Nov 18, Sun, Test & Tune

Nov 25, Sun, Test & Tune

 
 
 
 
 

[Half_Crazy]

Maybe it's been moved to the 17th. I'll let ya know.